Wednesday, February 18, 2009

History Day with Denise Eagan

How much do you know about Boston Society? Are you a history buff? Denise Eagan is with us today, writing a little about the beautiful city.
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When I started writing The Wild One, I had no clue that I would eventually be writing about Victorian Boston or the American Aristocracy.  All I really knew was that my hero was a rich gambler and the heroine an actress.  I was writing the end of the book (which came in pieces and not in order) when the hero and his father started talking about his parents’ courtship.  By the end of the scene, I knew two things: 1) I had another book to write and 2) that my hero was part of a member of the American Aristocracy.   


Yup, American Aristocracy.  


When I started researching rich upper class Victorians the term came up again and again.  It jolted me. I already had a fuzzy impression of 19th century debutant balls and parties with “the right people”.  I always considered it sort of an American version of the Regency period, but to label it an aristocracy?  I thought perhaps that historians applied the phrase for lack of better wording. But no, I found a 19th century quote by a woman saying to a foreign visitor “You just don’t understand our Aristocracy.”  Pretty pretentious, huh?  As I dug deeper I discovered that Bostonians were probably the most pretentious of all.  And fascinating.


Growing up in the Boston area, I’ve come to associate the term Boston Brahmin with stuffy people talking about charity fundraisers.  Then I picked up the The Proper Bostonians by Cleveland Armory (part of a series on the American Aristocracy) and learned about how the Brahmins came to be. It really started in the 1830’s or so when the current member of Boston Society hired an Italian count as a dance master, who started a dance academy that would inevitably lead to exclusive “assemblies” similar to the famed Almack’s of London.  Papanti taught ballroom etiquette as well, which he enforced by smacking young men on the back with his violin bow. In 1852 Boston established a men’s club like London’s Whites—The Somerset Club.  In addition Society members took to promenading through the park at set times and appointed its Queens of Society—one of the first Mrs. Harrison Gray Otis, Boston’s version of Lady Sefton of England’s Regency period.  Ironically only 30 years after starting a revolution to establish a democracy that basically vilified a pre-determined class structure, Boston did everything it could to create its own aristocracy. 

Of course Boston was not the only city doing this. Cities across the nation followed suit. New York had the Union club and Caroline Astor.  San Francisco had Eleanor Martin and promenades through Golden Gate Park.  Boston Society, however, stood out in its exclusivity.  Established by the mid 1850’s, nothing except marriage—not money, fame or intellect—got you in.  And Boston strongly encouraged marriage to other Bostonians.  By comparison, New York and San Francisco went through various incarnations of “Society”.  Fortune, not family, seemed to played the primary role. Bostonians, who were friendly with New York’s First Families, called these people “bounders” or upstarts.  No breeding, no customs! 


The Brahmins did care about wealth.  In fact hard work and thrift was almost a second  religion to them.  But unlike other societies, they guarded their money jealously, guaranteeing continuing family fortune  through trust funds, thus precluding the need for periodic infusions of “new” money.  Bostonians also abhorred New York-style ostentation and disdained the publicity that other societies seemed to crave. (In 1892 Ward McAllister actually published a list of New York’s top 400 families—horror of horrors to the Proper Bostonian!) They had their scandals of course, one of which included a murder, but they were kept quiet and the participants ruthlessly rooted out.     

In addition they projected their snobbery upon the Irish. Granted, most of the country disliked the Irish, but Boston took it to extremes. When the Irish entered city government in the late 19th century, many of them moved out of the city.


Of course I found all this great fodder for writing. What could be more fun than making Lee, my ne’er- do-well gambler, the son of a Boston Brahmin?  And make him a rebel compelled to leave home to avoid disgracing his family?  And what better conflict than to present him with Jess,  the perfect woman in looks, personality, humor, but who is unfortunately an actress, an Irish actress? Then settle them across the country in San Francisco, which is fairly “safe” for a budding romance, until a murder charge and a race from the law forces the Lee to request help from the last person he wants to see—his father.  Oh the fun! I couldn’t resist any more than I could resist writing the prequel (Wicked Woman, published first) when the following conversation took place.  The father, Ward, upon learning the “true” character of Jess after she’s left Lee, says, 


“If I loved the woman, son, nothing short of mortal wounds would keep me from her side.”

Lee laughed a little. “No, sir. As I recall Mom stabbed you.”

Ward’s eyes gleamed. “It was but a slight wounding. It scarcely deterred me.”

“Nor did anything else, as I recall. By ‘any means, be they fair or foul,’ correct? It’s a miracle that she forgave you my birth.”

“It was,” his father said truly smiling now, “my greatest triumph. You proved quite useful, son.”



Sound intriguing?  Leave a question (I’ve got my book ready to answer!) or comment and register to win a book—either one, your choice!

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Thanks for being here, Denise :) 
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ps. Please don't forget to leave your e-mail addy along with your comment or question!

49 comments:

Kytaira said...

Did the *elite* from each city look down on or intermarry those from other cities? And how did they look on the aristocracy from Europe?

Your books sound great!

lynda98662 at yahoo dot com

MJ said...

these sound really fun. Please count me in!

Margay said...

Hi, Denise, I'm from the Boston area myself and I'd heard about the Boston Brahmans, but I never realized that they considered themselves aristocrats. Or that they so closely mirrored the society they fought so hard to separate from. Fascinating stuff! This is why I love history - you never know what you might turn up!

Margay

Margay1122 (at) aol (dot) com

Bridget said...

I've posted this on Win A Book.

olympianlady said...

American aristocracy? Now, that's intriguing. Count me in on the giveaway please. Thanks!
tiffanyak1986(at)hotmail(dot)com

Denise Eagan said...

Oh yes, they did "intermarry". And they tried very hard to "catch" the European aristocracy for their daughters! I think--I'll see if I can find it--that one of the Vanderbilts was so enthralled with such a match that they locked their daughter in her room for two weeks, giving her only bread and water until she agreed to marry this specific (impoverished) Duke. I'm pretty certain she did and it was a horrible marriage that ended in divorce.

In San Francisco, one man passed himself off for months as a member of the European Aristocracy. He was wined and dined and passed before thier daughters. I don't know how they found out but it was a great story!

Can you see how much I love this stuff? :)

Denise Eagan said...

Me too, Margay! Totally blew me away. I loved the part about the Italian count. I had to put that in the book--only a little comment--but I could not resist! Even when I had to cut words (I always have too many) I couldn't let that go.

Know what's cool? Our towns and many of the structures in Boston are named after these people. The Lowells, Lawrences and Quincys were all members of the Brahmins. All of whom would probably get smacked on the back at some point with that violin bow!

Margay said...

Denise, here's a little tidbit: I'm related to those Lowells via my mother's mother. She was a cousin to them.
Margay

Barbara Wallace said...

I'm curious, how did the Brahmin's define Old Money vs. New Money? I assume those who made their fortunes in the shipping trades qualified as old while those who made it in the new technology were new? At what point would they accept someone as "their kind" or rather what would you have to do to finally gain acceptance?

Elizabeth L'Inconnu said...

Denise, that is very interesting information and your book sounds fabulous.

Way to go.

EL

Denise Eagan said...

Margay that is the coolest thing! See, I'm writing about you :)

I should have mentioned after Kytaira's comment (I got so excited talking about history) that the heroine in Wicked Woman is a disowned English noblewoman. And a good thing too, because after the scandal she drags the Brahmin hero through, being a member of the nobility is helpful in restoring the family name.

Denise Eagan said...

Barbara, old money was anything made before about 1860 or so. Names were already established, but I think maybe they let in a few during that period (not sure). New money came afterward and was not acceptable in anyway except through marriage. Kennedy is not a Brahmin (or at least wouldn't have been allowed in at the time The Proper Bostonians was written 1947). Vanderbilt, Astor, none of those would be allowed in except by marrying. And then only that person was part of Society.

At least according to what I've read.

carolsnotebook said...

I don't think I've every read anything featuring American Aristocrats during that time period. It's sound like a really great romance. I would love to be entered.

carolsnotebook at yahoo dot com

Margay said...

Now I HAVE to buy the book!Actually, that's just another reason to.
Margay

Maureen said...

I had no idea that Boston had an aristocarcy. How snobbish that sounds in this country. I enjoyed your post and your books sound fascinating.
mce1011[at]aol[dot]com

Lemonitsa said...

Hey Denise and hi everyone!

How was that for a great history lesson? Wish class was like that! :D

Denise, again, thanks for being here. I think your blog today is very interesting, and I am really happy everyone is getting into it.

I hope you are having lots of fun! :)

cheers and hugs
Lemonitsa

maymeholcombe said...

Denise,
I'm absolutely fascinated by the stuff. Years ago, I read extensively about Jacqueline Bouvier. It was considered "unfortunate" that she married so far beneath herself. The uber rich Kennedys were considered "lace curtain" Irish and way beneath Brahmins. Jackie's
mother however descended from Lighthorse Harry Lee of Virginia, Southern aritocracy. Everyone in the family has 'Lee' as a middle name.
Thanks for this fascinating insight on a vanished part of America.
No wonder your books are so great!
Mary Ann Webber

maymeholcombe said...

Denise,
I'm absolutely fascinated by the stuff. Years ago, I read extensively about Jacqueline Bouvier. It was considered "unfortunate" that she married so far beneath herself. The uber rich Kennedys were considered "lace curtain" Irish and way beneath Brahmins. Jackie's
mother however descended from Lighthorse Harry Lee of Virginia, Southern aritocracy. Everyone in the family has 'Lee' as a middle name.
Thanks for this fascinating insight on a vanished part of America.
No wonder your books are so great!
Mary Ann Webber

Virginia said...

Hi Denise, I am a big history buff and your books sounds fasinating! I am very intrigue by them. I would love to read one of your books. Please enter me in your drawing.
lead[at]hotsheet[dot]com

Susan Macatee said...

Having read both your book, Denise, all I can say is they were so much fun to read. Isn't it fun to mix fact and fiction?

tetewa said...

They sound good, I'd like to be included!

K Giardina said...

Your inside peek into the backgrounds of the wealthy and exclusive society of the day promises to be very entertaining and informative, as well, to those who are unfamiliar with some of Boston's colorful history!
Sounds like a terrific read, and thanks for the contest!
kim[dot]giardina[at]gmail[[dot]com

traymona said...

I love historical novels. It's the best way I know to learn about life in the past without being bored by dry facts and figures.
traymona[at]aol.com

Denise Eagan said...

Mary Ann, I didn't know that about Jackie! I spend tons of time in the 19th century, but know (sadly) very little of the more modern day history. You think I'd know something about the Kennedys since I live in the area, but I don't.

Thanks for the kind comments about my books, Mary Ann, Susan!

Denise Eagan said...

Bridget, thanks for posting this on Win a Book. I need to check that out! I've never heard about it.

Denise Eagan said...

I am so excited that so many of you are interested in my books and the American Aristocracy. It's a joy to find other people to share the history that I love so much. Thanks for the comments.

MJ, Elizabeth, tetewa, I think we need your email addy in a comment to be registered. I don't want anyone left out!

ddurance said...

I'm interested in knowing if there were any Cain's, Durance's, Chappell's, Lawson's or Douglas's in that top 400 families list?

Deidre
deidre_durance at hotmail dot com

Denise Eagan said...

Deidre--this is a little embarassing, I got the actual date wrong on the publication of the 400. I believe he made it up for the first time around 1876, (he chose the "Patriarchs" of society in 1872) but published in in the New York Times in 1892. He was, at the time, falling out of favor with New York Society. I didn't see those names on it. That doesn't mean they weren't on it in earlier years or later years, just not in 1892. Here's the actual link:

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res=9B04EEDF173BEE33A25755C1A9649C94639ED7CF&oref

kimmyl said...

Whenever you begin to write do you try to visualize what your heroes and heroines look like or do you just go ith the flow?

kimmyl
tobfree35@sbcglobal.net

Paisley Kirkpatrick said...

What interesting information on early American snobs - this is a great way to add spice to our stories if we can add some of these great people into our stories. I used a wee bit of it with my high-society lady who did not approve of my hero in my last story. She was so much to write. :)

Jane said...

Hi Denise,
I enjoyed "Wicked Woman" and look forward to reading "The Wild One" and being introduced to San Franciscan society.

janie1215 AT excite.com

Estella said...

I love historicals. I learn so much about history as I read them.

peggy said...

As a history buff.what did you enjoy researching more.American
Aristocracy or Victorian boston.
And what one did you as a writter learn more about.
peg360@hotmail.com

Denise Eagan said...

Kimmyl,

From what I gather, other writers have a very clear vision of their characters when they start writing. Many will surf the internet looking for photos and make collages to help them.

As for me, though, I rarely can find photos of any kind that match my vision of my characters, so how I view them can be a little hazy. Like how I picture friends or family I haven't seen for a long time. I know what they look like, I certainly know them when I see them, but if anyone ever asked me to make a police sketch, I'm not sure I could. It could be because I have lousy vision :)

I can tell you though, that Lee's eyes in The Wild One look a lot like Ralph Fiennes! Not the rest of him, but man those eyes are magnetic!

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/4/66/ralphfiennes03.0.0.0x0.280x280.jpeg

Oh and for the rest of the question--yes, I do have a good idea of how they look before writing the book. It comes across stronger as I write, but very little changes (except eye color, sometimes)

Denise Eagan said...

Peggy, hmmm. What did I enjoy more? I think I always enjoy researching people more than places, so it would be the American Aristocracy. The information would sometimes make me laugh out loud. One New Yorker actually gave a tea party for her dolls, can you believe it? And after the birth of his son Stanford of San Francisco presented him at dinner--this blows me away--on a silver platter and a bed of lettuce. Just makes me shake my head.

My husband enjoyed the Victorian Boston research though, because it meant walking around Boston. We were walking down Beacon Street and I looked at one of the houses and told him how much I'd love seeing the inside. This specific one had been turned into some kind of club. The DH walked up, opened the door, asked the guy at the desk if we could look around because I'd written about the house and the guy said yes! It was very cool!

Jeanmarie Hamilton said...

Denise,
Enjoyed your history about the aristocracy of Boston. :-) It's still going on these days, isnt' it?
Found your first book sooo fresh and entertaining and your second book promises to be just as much fun.

Denise Eagan said...

Jane, I'm so glad you enjoyed Wicked Woman! It warms my heart to know I've entertained people with my obsession :) I'm sure you'll like The Wild One--Lee is very much his mother's son, rebellious tendencies and all!

Denise Eagan said...

Paisely,

Yes, writing about American Snobs is a blast. Or taking any snobby person and playing with them in a romance is fun. And if you think of Jane Austen's Mr. Darcy, it's been going on for years. Can't get much better than that, huh?

Jeanmarie, yes, it is still going on. But I think it's much less obvious because America has so many more people than in the Victorian period and I think these days we tend to hero-worship actors and athletes. Victorian America, from what I can see, was still a little insecure about leaving Mum :)

Denise Eagan said...

Just wanted to finish this up for Kytaira. Miss Consuelo Vanderbilt was pushed into a marriage with the Duke of Marlborough. Her mother did lock her in her room, and threatened to have the man she truly loved murdered. I believe, but I'm not sure, that the room she was locked in was in The Marble House in Newport RI. At least this is where I first heard the story, when touring the Newport RI mansions.

Stacie said...

Please count me in too :)

Denise Eagan said...

Stacie, Estella, please come back and leave your email addies!

Lisa said...

I'm totally fascinated with this book. I never realized that that part of Boston considered themselves aristocrats.

Marie said...

I red Wicked Woman recently and really liked it! Would love to read The Wild One, please count me in.

marieimy (at) gmail (dot) com

Denise Eagan said...

Marie,

Glad you liked Wicked Woman! It was a lot of fun to write.

Lisa, it is amazing that they thought of themselves that way. And probably still do. But it wasn't just Boston. It was the society people in all the major cities. In that article with the list of The 400, the NYT referred to them as the Beau Monde.

Denise Eagan said...

Well that was a lot of fun! Thank you Yankee Romance Reviewers and everyone else for showing up and leaving comments and question. I've picked a name out of a hat and am emailing it to Yankee Romance Reviewers. The winner will be announced on Friday. In the mean time, if you get a chance you can check out my website for more information on the books, and some Victorian Fun Facts (I try to add to it every few days). And for those who read Wicked Woman--there's a section for Previously Deleted Scenes.

www.deniseeagan.com

Happy readin all!

Denise

I Heart Book Gossip said...

Sounds great. Count me in

Karen H in NC said...

Hi Denise,

Your books sound great. For the most part, I read English Regency era books but I do enjoy an American Victorian book. I'll definately be puting your books on my BTB list.

Pam P said...

Hi Denise, Victorian Boston and the aristocracy is a very interesting period. Your books sound great, will have to add them to my list.

Lemonitsa said...

What an awesome day! Thanks everyone, and especially Denise for making YRR a happening place to be today. :)

I made an ooopsie when I e-mailed Denise earlier on. The winners for this week will be announced on Saturday. I got mixed up and thought Friday was a free day and Sat. was booked, but it's the other way around.

Look for the winner's name on Saturday!!